Killing Dirty Electricity

interference! Interference is when one signal laps over another signal. You have two signals now! That’s real! And here’s some examples that each of us have experienced in our life that allows each of us to know that dirty electricity is real. When I was a kid, we would get home from school and my mom would run the vacuum, and the vacuum would affect the TV picture! So now the TV is all clear, mom turns on the vacuum and now the TV is all messed up. Well, clean power was coming into the vacuum, the motor in the vacuum was distorting the power, distorting that wave, adding additional frequencies, putting it back on the neutral, or the common, the television is also connected to a neutral with a common, and it would put lines in the TV, we’ve all experienced that! A lot of people say well I can hear my sister’s blow dryer! My sister is in the bathroom getting ready for school and I can hear her blow dryer on my radio! How?! Same thing! Right?! Same thing! Or you’re driving, you know, in town 30 years ago, you get the FM stations, and then you get out of town you only get the AM stations. Okay, so now you turn on your phone and you see your printer, their printer, his Wi-Fi, their Wi-Fi, you know, you have direct-tv dish network, all of these signals. Where do these signals land? On antennas! Well, if a two-foot antenna on the roof of your car worked, Nick, why would the copper wiring, the mile of copper wiring in your home’s electrical system, why would that not act as an antenna?”

 

Nick: “It does!”

 

B.D.: “It does! It absolutely does! So what happened in lightbulbs specifically is electricity comes in and you’re trying to excite this mercury, so you’ve got a ballas screw driver, an electronic component that’s trying to excite this mercury vapor to turn this electrical current into lumens and into light. Well the electricity doesn’t just go into a device and disappear, a very small amount is converted into mechanical work or heat or resistance or something, most of it goes back out on the line. Well, when it goes back out on the line, it’s been degraded, it’s been changed and been affected negatively by the operation and use of that device. So it goes back on the common. So you’re wiring has two wires, it has the hot leg and the common, you have a complete that circle and do that path. So each time you add another electronic to it, you further degrade the quality of that signal. So once the electricity has been degraded through the use of a device, that’s what we call by definition dirty electricity. It’s no longer clean, it’s been somehow changed, formed, degraded, by the use of a device. So, you don’t have one lightbulb in your house, you have 25! And it’s a collective effect! You also got all of this DC stuff, your laptop, your phone, your iPad, your tablet- they all have a battery, and if they have a battery, they’re DC (direct current). So it doesn’t want a wave, it doesn’t want that 60 hertz frequency in the US or 50 in Europe, it wants a direct current. So each time we add one of these, it has the special little cord, the special unit to charge your phone, right?, you put it into USB to change it, that again changes the signal. So dirty electricity is absolutely real beyond contestation, everybody that has watched TV or heard a blow dryer on the radio knows that it’s real, but what we’re really talking about now is it’s been exasperated over the last 30 years. So, 40 years ago in the US specifically, we used a lightbulb invented by Thomas Edison and it was just an anode and a cathode, a tungsten filament, and the electricity would move through the tungsten filament and created light. Now it created about 90% heat and 10% light, but then actually cleaned electricity because that resister that’s turning it into heat would burn off a lot of the distortion, it would burn off that interference, turn it into heat! Well, what happened is that we took those away, we took away in home maybe about 30 devices that cleaned electricity and added now a compact fluorescent, or a LED, 30 things that dirty the electricity, so it completely changed the quality of the electricity in an American home or in THE home excuse me, in the home of a person using light, and then it exasperated further because we added all of these DC devices, the phones, the laptops, the tablets, the computers, and we have this proliferation of signals landing now on the electrical system that is our wiring, and today, dirty electricity is 200-300x what it was 20 years ago and so now we have to start thinking ‘Does this effect human health?”

 

Nick: “Yes! And, well there’s a few things. First, is it true if I say this is mainly unregulated in the electronics world in a sense that manufacturers, the way I heard it from Al Phillips, the head of an advocacy group for EMF safety, Power Watch UK, he’s an electrical engineer, said that the only reason in his mind that these electronics put so much dirty electricity on the line is that manufacturers do not want to pay a few bucks for filters internally, is that correct?”

 

B.D.: “That’s absolutely correct! So, the only reason they care about clean power for the most part is how it effects their device. They want their device to perform well and last a long time so they meet standards for the operation of their device. Since it’s unregulated for health, you know, why worry about it? You know manufacturers are constantly trying to get their cost of goods down, they could add an X2 capacitor, they could add a suppression or a safety gap, they could do something that could literally cost a dollar or two and change it unless it’s regulated.”

 

Nick: “Yeah, so there’s not only that, I know there’s or I think there’s a lot of regulations about that the electromagnetic interference comes to airwaves. Like how your radio tower would impact the cell tower because you have fights between telecoms and they say you have interference and engineers are really thinking about that, but inside the wires of your home and the electrical grid, it’s basically a free-for-all at the moment. So what is it creating on an electrical efficiency standpoint? Because I think that’s, before even talking about health effects, all of these devices that are dirtying the electricity in your home, aren’t they increasing your electricity bill in some sense? Because the power that is dirtier is a kind of fuel that runs dirtier in a motor of your car, right? So it’s less efficient, is that a good analogy?”

 

B.D.: “You’re absolutely correct. So one of the things that we use a lot of the times is a DVR recorder so we can pause TV and watch TV. If you put your hand on your DVR, I guarantee you that it’s 20-30 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than your room temperature. Sometimes when you charge your phone, it gets really warm, not all the time, just sometimes, make a note of it, right? Sometimes the back of your refrigerator is hot, so what happens is we have several types in alternating current, we have several types of power, we have: Real power, Apparent power, Reactive power, there are different types of power, and it’s only the real power, the watts, the power in good power factor and good sinewave that’s able to produce work. Reactive power and that apparent power, that gets converted into heat! Well, is heat free? No, heat isn’t free! So any time you’re spending your watts and your money making something hot, two things happen: 1. We potentially shorten the life or degraded the quality and performance of that electronic because it doesn’t want to be hot. 2. We’ve spent our dollars making that device hot! According to the Department of Energy in the US, about 77% of power is consumed by, you know, performing the amount of work that you want to perform, you know, you’re making ice cream cold or you’re lifting a garage door, right? 77% performs that work, 23% potentially is lost as heat soak in appliances and in electronics and things like that. So there’s a big part of your bill that can be saved that if it’s used it’s making your thing warm. Not to be repetitive, but who doesn’t want a clean TV picture?! We do! Who doesn’t want a crisp radio signal? We all do! And who doesn’t want these tech devices that we’ve bought to last a long time and perform well? So by using the right kind of electricity filters, the device runs better, it runs cooler, quieter, it lasts longer, your bill goes down, and if you’re worried about the negative effects to the biological, you’ve reduced that by potentially 90-95%. It’s measurable and you can see it, Nick!”

 

Nick: “This is so important, you know, it’s the longevity of the electronic, the electricity bill possibly, and then the biological effects, the biological effects, and we don’t have to really have to dive too deep into those, but there are sufficient signs that say ‘Let’s be prudent with that.’ There are a few studies done by Magda Havas in Canada, she is I would say the main researcher looking into that. There’s also a good book by Dr. Sam Milham, a world-class epidemiologist who did ‘Dirty Electricity and the Disease of Civilization’. So a few good resources to get started in the show notes if you wanted to look at the science. But, the short version is that we’re already impacted by electricity, we’re impacted by cell phones, and if you don’t think so then you should listen to some others of my videos or read my book and all this stuff does something to the human body. It looks like one of the most important factors is not initially the type of frequency, not even the intensity of a certain thing, it’s how frequent the change is. It’s all the harmonics, it’s all the global chaos and sometimes it’s the certain characteristics like the pulsation. When something is erratic or chaotic, it creates more biological effects. So it’s more stressful and exactly linked to Electrohypersensitivity or a feeling or ‘Why am I feeling so drained in this home?’ Like my energy is low and then I go to someone else’s home for two days and I feel great! So it’s an environmental factor, it makes your home more stressful, and in an environment also during your sleep, right? These things impact you. So as far as biology goes, my thought is, you know, another thing is to filter inside your home. Where SATIC comes in, and I want you to talk about your products and your company, but what I did not learn at first when I authored my book, of course your technology is not even mentioned in there I didn’t even know that it existed, is how it defers from plug-in’s that you can put throughout your homes. A lot of people what they would do is buy plug-in’s, put them everywhere and say ‘Well, I filtered dirty electricity.’ The way I understand for certain products that your company creates at the breaker panel, it’s more akin to installing a whole home water filter where you say, you know, I’m going to clean from the municipality, they send me dirty water with chlorine and maybe fluoride and pharmaceutical drugs in there that can’t really be filtered out so I don’t even trust them and that’s what I would do, I insult reverse osmosis and call it a day, my entire home is clean. So you’re approach is more akin to that, so maybe talk about the different products you offer and how is that different from just using plug-in’s in the home for example?”

 

B.D.: “You bet! And I’m going to give you a long way to get there because Sam Milham’s book ‘Dirty Electricity’ is one of the first publications that I bought that helped me identify my son’s problem, and Sam and I became pals. I was able to call him, he took my call personally! Somehow I was able to reach him and we created a friendship! Dr. Mercola is also someone who’s done some research in where a lot of my research began was not with human beings, it was with the biological with dairy cows. So much studies has been done with dairy cows because it’s such a big business! Cheese, milk, ice cream, sour cream, cream cheese, yogurt, all these things where they have proven beyond contestation, DairyGold, Merigold, the big companies, that the cow’s production of milk, taste, the volume is affected by dirty electricity. Some of our best customers are indoor greenhouses and grows. A big strawberry in Canada, a big tomato, marijuana, if you want big produce, you need clean electricity! We’ve got documentation where the plant grows towards the light, the water, the nutrition, and away from the dirty electricity! So because of the FDA and stuff, we have to be very careful of what we say is harmful to humans, but you can say it about cows, Nick! You can say it about a strawberry!”

 

Nick: “Please purchase this product even if you’re not a cow but it just works for cows! Haha.”

 

B.D.: “Haha! So even though I’m not a cow, I am biological! So for the dairy and greenhouse grows, putting a bunch of plug-in’s didn’t make sense. What we wanted to do was to get a spot in the farm, in the dairy, in the home where we know all of the electricity is going to pass through this one place for sure. So we developed a line of wire-in products that wire in right at the utility panel, the distribution panel because we know all of the electricity is going to flow through that one point. So it does a couple of things: 1. It stops, or, it effects all the incoming power. All incoming power is boosted to that one wave, that 60 hertz or 50 hertz, wherever you live frequency, one sinewave, we boost the power factor into the 90’s. We remove about 95-99% of interference, of distortion, EMF, EMI, THD, we’re filtering these things. And then we’re one of the only products on the market that is not only on Phase A and Phase B in the US or the phase is having incoming power, but also the neutral and the common. And that’s really one of the key differentiators to our product, that’s where the dirty electricity lives! You know clean power, we talked about this for the most part, goes into the device, into the light, but it’s degraded by, it’s affected by the use of that device and goes back not on the phase but back on the neutral, it goes back on the common. And so the cumulative effect is really where your dirty electricity lies and that’s where it returns the utility. So we do make plug-in products because sometimes you’re on the go, you want something to take with you, you’re going to give to your son or daughter that lives in a dorm or you’re going to travel in a hotel room or you’ve got a room that has really high dirty electricity, we make those. But the vast majority of our sales are the engineered wire-in products that happen at the braker panel because we know there that we’re able to effect all the electricity in that home or office.”

 

Nick: “Yeah that’s very important, and it’s also, you know, I think it’s a better fix to the problem, the way I’ve been explained is by certain engineers who do not agree with the approaches of certain companies with plug-in’s is that these plug-in’s are shifting the frequency outside a certain range considered biologically more active, but it doesn’t guarantee where it pushes it is really safe, so it’s kind of a semi-solution, uh, you’re doing something good with plug-in’s and I have plug-in’s here, so I was a renter on this condo and now I’m going to become an owner, so hopefully I can install your technology here, but, I think this is a common question you’re getting but, I’m in an 8-unit condo so would it still get benefits from filtering at the panel given everything that the neighbors are setting? I think it would filter out the neighbors as well, right?”

 

B.D.: “It does! It even helps the neighbors!”

 

Nick: “Oh, they’re going to thank me! Haha.”

 

B.D.: “They’re going to thank you! So, we’ve had installs, and we’ve got 85,000 of our wire-in unit installed in the US alone. We’ve been making them for 13 years. We’ve had one customer get a unit and the neighbors comment, maybe the neighbors power bill goes down 5% or down 10% and they comment because the electricity, it is connected, right? When you live in a neighborhood and you’re on a subdivision, that electricity is connected. So when you wire something like that in the panel, not only do you benefit yourself, you do benefit your neighbors at a limited sense too. And also something else that happens is when you have a filter plugged in a bedroom or something and you’re right they do help, but what happens is that also becomes a little bit of a hotspot that you have yet another electrical device plugged in there, and some people that are really sensitive, they can’t have a filter in their bedroom, they can’t have it close to their bed or where they sit or something, where at the utility panel we already know this is a hot spot. Our utility panel is in our garage or maybe by our hot water tank and we know that this is a place where there’s going to be high electric fields. So by installing it there, whatever hot spot the device might make, you centralized it. You’ve centralized these fields that these things to a place where it already existed before. If you didn’t have it in your bedroom before, now you bring a plug-in unit there and you may exacerbate that a little bit unwittingly in creating a little bit of a note or a hot spot there with that electric device. So another reason the wire-in’s sell so well and perform so well is we’re isolating in a spot where it was already isolated.”

 

Nick: “Yeah, and that’s a good point. I’m just thinking about all the sources of dirty electricity and my approach, usually same thing with Wi-Fi, same thing with all the different sources out there. First, try to reduce the sources themselves. Sources of dirty electricity, please let me know in your experience what are the worst sources that are producing it and also maybe talk about the fact that the electricity coming from the power grid is sometimes dirty itself because of various factors. It might be a factory nearby, it might be a neighbor who uses a bunch of things, they’re sending you their dirtiness and it get dirtier and dirtier as you go along the same line on a street, so please talk about that fact and what in your personal opinion and experience are the worst producers of that dirty electricity?”

 

B.D.: “Okay, this is an excellent question! So, sometimes people just want to say that you’re just trying to sell stuff, you’re trying to sell something, no! We engineer products because this problem exists, you don’t just start there! If you think smoking is bad for you, the first thing place, stop smoking! That’s number one! Number two, stop going to bars or places where there is a lot of smoke! The absolute best way to have clean electricity is not to buy filters. The best way is to just not have things that produce it, right? That’s the best way to get there. So, the things that cause it the most: number one in most cases is usually lighting. So most lighting is CFL, compact fluorescent lamp, the curly-q bulb, those are absolutely terrible for the creation of dirty electricity, harmonics, distortion, simply because of the way that they operate. They have a ballas that raised the voltage and that voltage has to ark and excite that gas and the operation of that creates a lot of dirty electricity. A LED, their very efficient, but they are a light emitting diode. A diode by definition is a one-way door. So, they’re strobing, a lot of people don’t know that, they are strobing at 50 or 60 hertz which is clipping that wave and creating dirty electricity. DC devices, we talked about this, anything with a battery, computers switch mode power supplies, so your computer and your gaming console, and these things are huge culprits and they’re bigger culprits like your phone and stuff when they’re charging for not only affecting the electricity that they’re connected to but also the fields that they generate and give off. So a lot of people keep their phone plugged in by their bed and they put it on airplane mode and they think they’re okay, no, since it’s plugged in you’re exacerbating the size of that field. You don’t want a smart meter on your house, you want to turn your Wi-Fi off at night, now my son can’t have the Wi-Fi and stuff in the house, he’s got to really limit his exposure. It doesn’t affect me the same way, Nick, I can have a little bit more, but I don’t sleep in it! So yes the first thing we need to do is, at SATIC we call them the culprits, what are the dirty electricity culprits? There’s a nice list in your book, you give a great list in your book! We’ve got some stuff to if you know the lighting and the switch tech power supplies, computers, etc. Number one be cognizant of those things, and number two turn them off, number three don’t sit or rest in them because this field now has two things, right?, it has an intensity, how far away do I have to go to get away from it or how hard is it punching me and what’s the frequency of it? So like I always tell people when I hit my arm like this, after a while even if I’m gentle I’m going to get sore! I’m going to get a bruise! But if I move it like this, oh I’m charging $25 an hour for a massage! That’s nice! So if I’m moving, it doesn’t get me as much. I start to sit at my desk, it’s affecting my biology more, I’m laying at night, it’s affecting my biology more. So another part of that is if where you rest, where you sleep, these need to be havens of clean electricity, and that doesn’t come from filters, that comes from turning off and getting rid of culprits. That’s number one, okay! So with that being the case and that being the first thing that we’re going to do, sometimes we can’t control that. I can only control what’s in my house. I can’t go to my neighbor’s house and turn off their solar system which is a terrible culprit, right?! SO to not blame the power company where I live, the power comes from hydro, it’s very clean but it’s 100 miles away! It’s 120k or whatever, so what happens is it goes by car washes and beauty schools, it goes by all these things so by no fault of theirs, I’m not blaming them, just by the way it’s been powered and degraded by devices along the way it’s dirty when it gets to me, and that’s a combination of what the grid is delivering and truly what my neighbors are doing. So that’s why a wire-in filter at the panel becomes so important too because the first thing that I do is that I take action, I relieve, turn off or manage the use of the culprits in my home, get them away from my resting and sleeping areas, but now for the stuff that I can’t get from my neighbors, this is when you might want to start talking about filters as a way to simply protect yourself from what’s bombarding you externally.”

 

Nick: “Yeah that’s so great, and you know I’ve heard nothing but good things about the whole home panel filters like the Power Perfect Box since we started recommending that to our electropollution fix members. Please talk about that product in particular, how does that work? If it’s too technical, I mean there’s probably so many things happening at once at that box, but basically please talk about the actionable steps like people need to install that box at home, what do they need to do? They hire an electrician, where would they install it, etc.?”

 

B.D.: “Sure! So let me first brag on my engineering team. I have an applied science degree and a business degree and I was in engineering school, I was studying to be a power systems engineer, but when I went to build this electronic I instantly knew that I had the team built. I was, you know, personal development, I read a lot of books and one of the things that I consistently hear as a business owner and as a CEO a manager is that you need to build your team. So one of my engineers, Brian Jackson, he has an MBA and an engineering degree and he was the vice president of engineering for Idaho Power. He’s literally the guy who put solar panels on the roof of the utility, I mean, of the power company. Bradley Layton, Dr. Bradley Layton is a PhD engineer. He got his undergrad degree at MIT which is the number one engineering school in the United States, he got his PhD in Biomedical Engineering from Michigan which is a very prominent engineering school. Dr. Lynn Churchill has a PhD in Mathematics from the University of Washington. I put together the finest team of engineers that I could find to help me not just build a good product, but build a great one. And I talked to Dave Stetzer at Stetzerizer and looked at his filters and talked to him at great length about some changes, I mean initially I just didn’t want to build my own thing, I initially wanted to talk to some of the guys and I’ll admit it right now, I’m not crazy about Dave Stetzer’s products, I think they’re a little simple, but I’m standing on the shoulders of great men like him, and I will take nothing from him because he forged a trail when you had to be brave, right? He forged a trail on a dusty road when he was going alone, so I love and respect what he has done, it’s just that the product hasn’t been updated in 20 years. I love Gene at Greenwave, he’s one of the nicest funnest guys you’ve ever met! If you’re at a barbecue, you want to stand by Gene from Greenwave because he’s fun, he has a big heart, he’s a nice person, their product is very simple, it just doesn’t have a lot of component sets, it doesn’t have a lot of different component types, so it’s really just looking for one type that does one thing and our electricity has changed so much in the 15 years that these products have existed. We’ve actually changed our product twice since we started 13 years ago, and we’re about to launch Gen III because when we first launched it was compact fluorescent lighting and now it’s LED, there wasn’t the big crypto-mining that’s changed the look of electricity in the US or legalized indoor marijuana grows has changed electricity. We are in a constant, evolving, changing landscape, and no body that we know of has changed their product not even once in 15 years, we’ve changed ours twice in 13. So, you’ve got to be on the front edge of this. We have three filter sizes and three filter types and if you look at those other products, not that you would but, not that you would be naughty and open one with a driller tool you’ll see one product, you’ll see one filter. And so our plug-in model, for example, rather then having, you know, one filter of one type and one manufacturer, ours has eight in two different sizes and then a different component set completely that does something else, you know, one is looking for the voltage wave and the other is looking for amperage wave. And so they don’t have products to effect both, and how big is the frequency band that you’re trying to effect? So, also if you’ve got one filter and one breaks, how many do you have? Our wire-in products have a minimum of 21 filters! So even if one did fail because of a poor life or it was poorly manufactured by its manufacturing company, you’re still at about 95% effective rate, that’s why we also give the product a 10-year warranty because we’ve got tests that show that at year 11, you’re still at a 98% effective rate, you have very little degradation, it could be robust because that’s its job! I used to love the TimeX commercial, it takes a licking and keeps on a-tickin! It used to have an elephant stand on it, right?! You want something that is very robust because, in our opinion, this is protecting your family’s life. And I don’t say that lightly, that’s my experience. It’s my experience to protect my home and my family’s life, so we need something very robust. So rather, again, excuse me for being repetitive, rather than one filter of one type, we have multiple filters, multiple types looking for the voltage and the amperage waves and doing over a larger frequency scale. I don’t think we have any competition.”

 

Nick: “Yeah, that’s tremendous! So what happens when you install it? If you purchase the product, how big is it? Where do people put it? Does it require the help of an electrician or is it something a lay man can do?”

 

B.D.: “So that’s a great question. So it’s about the size of a shoebox and it does wire in at the utility panel, and for an electrician it’s an exceedingly easy installation, it has mounting brackets and four mounting screws. So you drill the four screws into the sheetrock or into the wood or whatever its on, and then it has three wires- it has a red and a black, and this is in the US, it has a red and a black that land on their own breaker, red for A black for B, and then white for the neutral. Now for Europe it just has red and blue, red for phase and blue for the neutral, you turn the breaker on and it takes about 20 minutes. Does an electrician need to do it? I can’t answer that because that depends on what the rules are for where your house is. So usually we have an electrician do it because he’s very familiar, it takes about a half hour and is wired right there at the panel. If your panel is full, often times it can go, like if you have a hot tub and it has a little panel there, or you’ve got an air conditioner has a little panel, or you have a swimming pool might have a little panel, you might have a pump house little panel, really any place that you can get onto all the electricity, which means you can get on both phases, this can be installed. It goes on its own breaker, again, made in the USA, 10-year warranty, and it’s guaranteed to perform. So let’s say, for you, you’re seeing this and you’re not seeing that, maybe the best thing that we have here is the wonderful tech support. We’ve got people that you can call. Not a machine, not someone overseas, our office! We answer the phone and we say yes look for this, look for that, here’s how you want to troubleshoot, here are your culprits, here’s how it’s going to work the best. So you’re never stranded, you’re never on your own because electricity is weird and everybody is on their own environment because our neighbor is doing something different and we have different things in our life, and the outcome is to not just sell you a product, the outcome is to sell you a product to get your DE super low so that you’re happy and you can recommend it to a pal!”